From mike.gabriel@das-netzwerkteam.de Tue Jul 30 11:56:54 2013 Received: (at 276) by bugs.x2go.org; 30 Jul 2013 09:56:54 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on ymir.das-netzwerkteam.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED, URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 Received: from freya.das-netzwerkteam.de (freya.das-netzwerkteam.de [88.198.48.199]) by ymir (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F33DA5DB17; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 11:56:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: from grimnir.das-netzwerkteam.de (grimnir.das-netzwerkteam.de [78.46.204.98]) by freya.das-netzwerkteam.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BB8A1DA8; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 11:56:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grimnir.das-netzwerkteam.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CEDE3BC05; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 11:56:53 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at grimnir.das-netzwerkteam.de Received: from grimnir.das-netzwerkteam.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (grimnir.das-netzwerkteam.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9WLjDWlX-u13; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 11:56:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grimnir.das-netzwerkteam.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D61C3BF0A; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 11:56:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grimnir.das-netzwerkteam.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E90B3BC05; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 11:56:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: by grimnir.das-netzwerkteam.de (Postfix, from userid 33) id A32963BD18; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 11:56:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from p57B4C81F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (p57B4C81F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [87.180.200.31]) by mail.das-netzwerkteam.de (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 11:56:52 +0200 Message-ID: <20130730115652.48754rdzbcscby78@mail.das-netzwerkteam.de> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 11:56:52 +0200 From: Mike Gabriel To: Pascal d'Hermilly Cc: 276@bugs.x2go.org, control@bugs.x2go.org Subject: Re: [X2Go-Dev] Bug#276: qt/kde applications does not work as root. References: <51F66E5B.8080200@dhermilly.dk> <20130730002503.20873y4n4tfolgov@mail.das-netzwerkteam.de> <51F705BF.1050404@dhermilly.dk> <20130730101748.48384stjoddgzu0c@mail.das-netzwerkteam.de> <51F78054.8000107@dhermilly.dk> In-Reply-To: <51F78054.8000107@dhermilly.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=_4orrqq9mrrhg"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="pgp-sha1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.3.4) This message is in MIME format and has been PGP signed. --=_4orrqq9mrrhg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Pascal, On Di 30 Jul 2013 10:59:00 CEST Pascal d'Hermilly wrote: > Den 30-07-2013 10:17, Mike Gabriel skrev: >>> >>> However quite important is that with Qt5 the "native" >>> qt_graphicssystem is being removed. Will x2go work with qt5 >>> application? >>> >> >> Probably not or if then very slow. X2Go does not handle desktop >> shell that do the rendering server-side very well. With widget >> toolkits that do the rendering on the server (as opposed to pushing >> X objects over the network and leave the rendering to the client) >> X2Go does not perform so well. > According to > http://vizzzion.org/blog/2013/07/the-next-kubuntu-graphics-stack/ > Kubuntu 14.10 will ship with KDE Plasma Workspaces 2 (QT5) that > depends on wayland. Will x2go be relevant in this setup? the name > suggests a dependency of X. > Obviously X will be around for a fair amount of time, but the new > KDE will not run on it. > X2Go only works with applications that run as X11 clients. The x2goagent binary is an X-Server that the applications connect to when started. I cannot image that Qt5 fully lacks X11 support. Only thing is that Ubuntu migrates to Mir (not Wayland AFAIK) and heavily pushses resources into Qt development (as Unity and Unity Greeter will move to Qt as widget framework). If the upstream people of KDE decide for that path, then X2Go will have to make it without KDE. 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