From mike.gabriel@das-netzwerkteam.de Sat Dec 21 21:59:32 2013 Received: (at submit) by bugs.x2go.org; 21 Dec 2013 20:59:33 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on ymir.das-netzwerkteam.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 Received: from freya.das-netzwerkteam.de (freya.das-netzwerkteam.de [88.198.48.199]) by ymir (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A612C5DB13 for ; Sat, 21 Dec 2013 21:59:32 +0100 (CET) Received: from grimnir.das-netzwerkteam.de (grimnir.das-netzwerkteam.de [78.46.204.98]) by freya.das-netzwerkteam.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4A7F3C8; Sat, 21 Dec 2013 21:59:32 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grimnir.das-netzwerkteam.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D7913C062; Sat, 21 Dec 2013 21:59:32 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at grimnir.das-netzwerkteam.de Received: from grimnir.das-netzwerkteam.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (grimnir.das-netzwerkteam.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4mVz2kJLubXY; Sat, 21 Dec 2013 21:59:32 +0100 (CET) Received: from grimnir.das-netzwerkteam.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grimnir.das-netzwerkteam.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1F1843C038; Sat, 21 Dec 2013 21:59:32 +0100 (CET) Received: from p4FE5F50D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (p4FE5F50D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [79.229.245.13]) by mail.das-netzwerkteam.de (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Sat, 21 Dec 2013 20:59:32 +0000 Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2013 20:59:32 +0000 Message-ID: <20131221205932.Horde.G9xpdz1Ic7XvuSNDr-RTcA1@mail.das-netzwerkteam.de> From: Mike Gabriel To: submit@bugs.x2go.org Cc: dick.kniep@lindix.nl Subject: Point to XQuartz as extra, non-bundled dependency during installation process on Mac OS X User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H5 (6.1.4) Accept-Language: en,de Organization: DAS-NETZWERKTEAM X-Originating-IP: 79.229.245.13 X-Remote-Browser: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:23.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/23.0 Iceweasel/23.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=_7nzzgEjR07glTJCgx4PRpQ4"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 MIME-Version: 1.0 This message is in MIME format and has been PGP signed. --=_7nzzgEjR07glTJCgx4PRpQ4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; DelSp=Yes Content-Disposition: inline Package: x2goclient Severity: wishlist This is a suggestion from Dick Kniep on how we can improve the Mac OS X installer. o During installation: test if XQuartz is already installed o If not: let a window pop up that informs about the necessity of XQuartz o If possible: present an URL to the download page of XQuartz @Clemens: do you think such an improvement can easily be implemented in the Mac OS X installer of X2Go Client? Request for comment... Greets, Mike ----- Weitergeleitete Nachricht von Dick Kniep ----- Datum: Sat, 21 Dec 2013 10:59:30 +0100 Von: Dick Kniep Betreff: RE: XQuartz for Mac installer An: Mike Gabriel Hi Mike, > Hi Dick > > On Di 17 Dez 2013 11:07:39 CET, Dick Kniep wrote: > > > Hi Mike, > > > > I tried to install the regular X2goclient on a Mac and there was an > > additional step required to get it working. > > > > In the newer Mac's XQuartz (the Mac X-server) is not installed. The > > installer should make sure that XQuartz is installed also! This > > should also be included in the regular Mac installer of the > > X2goclient. > > I talked to the Mac OS X maintainer of X2Go Client and we both agreed > that XQuartz won't be bundled in X2Go Client. The installation > procedure is: > > Install XQuartz > Log-off, log-on > Install X2Go Client > Use X2Go > > Reasons for not bundling XQuartz: > > o it is not easy to bundle it (Clemens said, he does not know how > to do it, and he is better than me) > o XQuartz has a shorter release cycle than X2Go -> X2Go Client will > ship old XQuartz versions > o many people have XQuartz already installed > > Possibly, we will have to compensate the non-bundling with > documentation. I have improved the quick install howto [1] a bit, but > there maybe other places where we can improve the docs (of course!!!). > > Greets, > Mike > > [1] http://wiki.x2go.org/doku.php/doc:installation:x2goclient#macos_x Yes I understand. However, is it possible to test for the existence of Xquartz on the system and if it does not exist start the webbrowser and show the XQuartz download page? They should be aware that something else is required, because most users simply click on the install button and think that everything is taken care of..... 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