From unknown Sat Apr 18 09:11:42 2026 X-Loop: owner@bugs.x2go.org Subject: Bug#375: [X2Go-Dev] Bug#375: Bug#375: x2gothinclient does not install 686 kernel Reply-To: Anders Bruun Olsen , 375@bugs.x2go.org Resent-From: Anders Bruun Olsen Resent-To: x2go-dev@lists.berlios.de Resent-CC: owner@bugs.x2go.org X-Loop: owner@bugs.x2go.org Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2013 13:33:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@bugs.x2go.org X-X2Go-PR-Message: followup 375 X-X2Go-PR-Package: x2gothinclientmanagement X-X2Go-PR-Keywords: moreinfo Received: via spool by 375-submit@bugs.x2go.org id=B375.138728715812391 (code B ref 375); Tue, 17 Dec 2013 13:33:01 +0000 Received: (at 375) by bugs.x2go.org; 17 Dec 2013 13:32:38 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on ymir.das-netzwerkteam.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,HTML_MESSAGE, T_DKIM_INVALID,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Greylist: delayed 358 seconds by postgrey-1.34 at ymir; Tue, 17 Dec 2013 14:32:36 CET Received: from eu1sys200aog122.obsmtp.com (eu1sys200aog122.obsmtp.com [207.126.144.153]) by ymir (Postfix) with SMTP id 8E7AC5DB16 for <375@bugs.x2go.org>; Tue, 17 Dec 2013 14:32:36 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail-oa0-f41.google.com ([209.85.219.41]) (using TLSv1) by eu1sys200aob122.postini.com ([207.126.147.11]) with SMTP ID DSNKUrBSdNshCU42BISrZqsUy3gzMwihpr2q@postini.com; Tue, 17 Dec 2013 13:32:36 UTC Received: by mail-oa0-f41.google.com with SMTP id j17so6552847oag.14 for <375@bugs.x2go.org>; Tue, 17 Dec 2013 05:32:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=dsl.dk; s=google; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=pqBy/hyt9276ZOT3XcIBAK/fmubMlvaTX7wUl1qf4Uw=; b=A8ZwmTquEUvy4jTQJSqcF4U6amAktuLA18rGSCNWo5Dfv0wIE4EfN1zGacNwpilAdp PQyVCozv3iVi1AZRz6kZgenpT6SoUDf1wTKnyLf6WkkJWr/mntW3+vl+/5tXe6Wihpfm Y3wmSg1/N6WYyeBE7hVm486XSfaBNvxc1esQQ= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=pqBy/hyt9276ZOT3XcIBAK/fmubMlvaTX7wUl1qf4Uw=; b=LmBqznMaqOHqgx3ON9WgRvirPGTp+rOb5HmzsKB/Yogrm/wmIKUnqGZSmlX1ee3t52 v7wzg4TBvfrU1vsJG0xKUSSlpCCeu5tw87A7Hwk22SS1twuxYsiOVLvWkIf5VL+L4ZMC 5TJecslk/TgB7xSwH/Vj4zWzNt/rdj524PSvvmNqdVGZd8jUY48V1wGgLtHZtYthOG/g pQJWYfSJN5zO7QwInBUFyB4JB59XL/itdMeZXfXq7fw5ngVw7gIoq6UU3AzuH5K+N79z fgkDsgEbhUs+ZVlLCR6Yx0XQ5+4CPW7B0D98+MtrheT9vdQTUQcSaRhaVPe3FEK7b8y+ U9TQ== X-Received: by 10.182.43.161 with SMTP id x1mr15999921obl.5.1387286797492; Tue, 17 Dec 2013 05:26:37 -0800 (PST) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlJmAIgVp05K8JYc37lYpKYBNkQGTXBfd1ydBUCvu9yPQdfqpbSEYjOnnc1C8kGfcy+KoM7WP6y7q9QoTksxSPykUCIt/W4IeTOndj6bIhDjjctPBXTnRIU5UuxtNSChI0Cy09IuLaCRBq57UggfoNCZzRnTQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.43.161 with SMTP id x1mr15999883obl.5.1387286797142; Tue, 17 Dec 2013 05:26:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.182.115.103 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Dec 2013 05:26:37 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <201312171318.31724.stephan.wagner@itos-gmbh.com> References: <20131217112430.Horde.LR9FJpJqwhCoWPI1HhdULA7@mail.das-netzwerkteam.de> <201312171318.31724.stephan.wagner@itos-gmbh.com> Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2013 14:26:37 +0100 Message-ID: From: Anders Bruun Olsen To: stephan.wagner@itos-gmbh.com, 375@bugs.x2go.org, x2go-dev Cc: Mike Gabriel Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c30ce2bee17204edbae0ff --001a11c30ce2bee17204edbae0ff Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi Mike, As the machines used as thin clients grow ever more powerful, at the same price and energy usage, the features available also keeps expanding. I have recently bought a Shuttle machine, that is physically smaller than my current thin clients, comes with the Atom D2550 (one of the newer Atom CPUs) which has two cores. I also put in 4gb of RAM, since it was almost the same price as a 2gb RAM module. Like Stephan wrote, without 686 (and in this case PAE) that system wouldn't be properly utilized. Even if it is somewhat overpowered for a thin client. As a side note, I am also testing out the Intel NUC DCCP847DYE which is a dual core celeron, but it is so small and (like the Shuttle) completely silent, but does not offer sound out, other than over HDMI. Anyways, it is a matter of properly utilizing the hardware. It probably isn't that big a deal, but it would be nice to have. 2013/12/17 Stephan Wagner > Hallo Mike > > > > I prefer 686-Kernel on a 32bit System, as it supports multiple cores. > > > > Stephan > > > > > > On Tuesday, 17. December 2013, Mike Gabriel wrote: > > > Control: tag -1 moreinfo > > > > > > Hi Anders, > > > > > > On Di 17 Dez 2013 11:23:31 CET, Anders Bruun Olsen wrote: > > > > > > > Package: x2gothinclientmanagement > > > > Version: 1.1.0.1 > > > > > > > > I run my tftp/nfs server for my thin clients, on a 64-bit machine (a > VM). > > > > When I create a thinclient chroot with x2gothinclient_create, only the > 486 > > > > kernel gets installed. I can use x2gothinclient_shell and use apt-get > to > > > > install linux-image-686, to get the 686 kernel installed. But upon > doing > > > > so, the reason for it not being auto installed is apparent: 64-bit > machines > > > > don't support PAE (not needed), and the deb package for linux-image-686 > > > > knows that this particular kernel is made for machines supporting PAE. > I > > > > can just say yes to the warnings, and I even though I end up with an > error, > > > > the kernel does get installed. This is not optimal. > > > > I realize this is a problem (in this niche case, it probably "works as > > > > intended") with Debian Wheezy, and not really a job for the developers > of > > > > x2go, but since I am running into this problem when using x2go, I am > > > > reporting the problem here, and hopefully it will be sent upstream, if > that > > > > is desirable. > > > > > > What is your reason for wanting to use the 686 kernel in the first > > > place. The reason I removed 686 support from the X2Go TCE is that it > > > > > > (a) did not bring any feelable improvements while my TCEs ran under > > > Debian squeeze _and_ > > > (b) did not work fluently if the PXE server machine is a amd64 system > > > > > > Please enlight me, why 686 would be a sensible kernel alternative to > > > use here... > > > > > > > > -- > > __________________________________________________ > > Dr. Stephan Wagner > > ITos GmbH > > Bitzi-Bendel 2555 > > 9642 Ebnat-Kappel > > Tel: +41 (0)71 990 05 94 > > mailto:swagner@itos-gmbh.com > > http://www.itos-gmbh.com > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > > _______________________________________________ > X2Go-Dev mailing list > X2Go-Dev@lists.berlios.de > https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/x2go-dev > -- Anders Bruun Olsen It-ansvarlig Det Danske Sprog- og Litteraturselskab (Society for Danish Language and Literature) --001a11c30ce2bee17204edbae0ff Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Mike,

As the machines used as thin c= lients grow ever more powerful, at the same price and energy usage, the fea= tures available also keeps expanding. I have recently bought a Shuttle mach= ine, that is physically smaller than my current thin clients, comes with th= e Atom D2550 (one of the newer Atom CPUs) which has two cores. I also put i= n 4gb of RAM, since it was almost the same price as a 2gb RAM module. Like = Stephan wrote, without 686 (and in this case PAE) that system wouldn't = be properly utilized. Even if it is somewhat overpowered for a thin client.= As a side note, I am also testing out the Intel NUC DCCP847DYE=C2=A0which is a dual core celeron, but it is= so small and (like the Shuttle) completely silent, but does not offer soun= d out, other than over HDMI.
Anyways, it is a matter of properly utilizing the hardware. It probabl= y isn't that big a deal, but it would be nice to have.


2013/12/17 Stephan= Wagner <stephan.wagner@itos-gmbh.com>

Hallo Mike

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I prefer 686-Kernel on a 32bit System, as it supports m= ultiple cores.

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Stephan

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On Tuesday, 17. December 2013, Mike Gabriel wrote:

> Control: tag -1 moreinfo

>

> Hi Anders,

>

> On Di 17 Dez 2013 11:23:31 CET, Anders Bruun Olse= n wrote:

>

> > Package: x2gothinclientmanagement

> > Version: 1.1.0.1

> >

> > I run my tftp/nfs server for my thin clients,= on a 64-bit machine (a VM).

> > When I create a thinclient chroot with x2goth= inclient_create, only the 486

> > kernel gets installed. I can use x2gothinclie= nt_shell and use apt-get to

> > install linux-image-686, to get the 686 kerne= l installed. But upon doing

> > so, the reason for it not being auto installe= d is apparent: 64-bit machines

> > don't support PAE (not needed), and the d= eb package for linux-image-686

> > knows that this particular kernel is made for= machines supporting PAE. I

> > can just say yes to the warnings, and I even = though I end up with an error,

> > the kernel does get installed. This is not op= timal.

> > I realize this is a problem (in this niche ca= se, it probably "works as

> > intended") with Debian Wheezy, and not r= eally a job for the developers of

> > x2go, but since I am running into this proble= m when using x2go, I am

> > reporting the problem here, and hopefully it = will be sent upstream, if that

> > is desirable.

>

> What is your reason for wanting to use the 686 ker= nel in the first

> place. The reason I removed 686 support from the X= 2Go TCE is that it

>

> (a) did not bring any feelable improvements whi= le my TCEs ran under

> Debian squeeze _and_

> (b) did not work fluently if the PXE server mac= hine is a amd64 system

>

> Please enlight me, why 686 would be a sensible ker= nel alternative to

> use here...

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=C2=A0

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__________________________________________________

Dr. Stephan Wagner

ITos GmbH

Bitzi-Bendel 2555

9642 Ebnat-Kappel

Tel: +41 (0)71 990 05 94

mailto:swagner@itos-gmbh.com

= http://www.itos-gmbh.com

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