From mike.gabriel@das-netzwerkteam.de Sun Oct 19 00:51:37 2014 Received: (at control) by bugs.x2go.org; 18 Oct 2014 22:51:40 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on ymir.das-netzwerkteam.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 Received: from freya.das-netzwerkteam.de (freya.das-netzwerkteam.de [88.198.48.199]) by ymir.das-netzwerkteam.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 39F683D603 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 00:51:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: from grimnir.das-netzwerkteam.de (grimnir.das-netzwerkteam.de [78.46.204.98]) by freya.das-netzwerkteam.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7B3453AA6; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 00:51:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grimnir.das-netzwerkteam.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D7BF3BC0D; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 00:51:36 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at grimnir.das-netzwerkteam.de Received: from grimnir.das-netzwerkteam.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (grimnir.das-netzwerkteam.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qxuY8DnuzZ5i; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 00:51:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from grimnir.das-netzwerkteam.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grimnir.das-netzwerkteam.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1344A3BC06; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 00:51:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from p5B3BAE6B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (p5B3BAE6B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [91.59.174.107]) by mail.das-netzwerkteam.de (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 22:51:36 +0000 Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2014 22:51:36 +0000 Message-ID: <20141018225136.Horde.vy2pUPW9Y3x0UaRyRFDPhA6@mail.das-netzwerkteam.de> From: Mike Gabriel To: Robert Dinse Cc: x2go-user@lists.x2go.org, control@bugs.x2go.org Subject: Re: [X2Go-User] Client Wish List In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H5 (6.2.2) Accept-Language: en,de Organization: DAS-NETZWERKTEAM X-Originating-IP: 91.59.174.107 X-Remote-Browser: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:32.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/32.0 Iceweasel/32.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=_bnnlwjPCrdQHr_UUL2_pjw1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 MIME-Version: 1.0 This message is in MIME format and has been PGP signed. --=_bnnlwjPCrdQHr_UUL2_pjw1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; DelSp=Yes Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable close #208 reopen #348 forcemerge #348 #481 thanks Hi Robert, thanks for testing X2Go so intensively. I highly appreciate your=20=20 wishlist=20(I am one of the core devs). So that it does not get lost, do=20= =20 one=20thing for a start [1]. Unfortunately, I don't have a Mac and I=20=20 don't=20use one. The Mac code is the part of X2Go Client that is=20=20 yearning=20for a constant maintainer. It is not unmaintained, but only=20= =20 maintained=20on customer request. Submit every wishlist item as a separate bug. Please see below for my=20=20 comments=20on the individual issues (I will also check, if a bug already=20= =20 exists=20for that issue). [1] http://wiki.x2go.org/doku.php/wiki:bugs On Sa 18 Okt 2014 21:57:22 CEST, Robert Dinse wrote: > I use X2Go for remote administration and I originate on several different > platforms, most often Ubuntu 14.04 LTS, but also from MacOS 10.7.5 and fr= om > Windows XP. I also use X2Go to allow my customers remote desktop=20=20 >=20access to our shell servers. :-) > The X2Go client differs in behavior from other NX type clients in th= at > on systems with virtual desktops or workspaces, they keyboard sequence us= ed > to switch workspaces, control+arrow key in the case of MacOS or=20=20 >=20control+alt+arrow key in the case of Ubuntu, do not work within the=20= =20 >=20client, > so when I have the client full-screened, I can't switch workspaces=20=20 >=20except by first minimizing the client. With OpenNX, NoMachine=20=20 >=20Player, or Remmina, I can > use the keyboard short-cuts to switch work spaces without minimizing=20= =20 >=20the client > and that is much more convenient. This definitely is a new bug. Maito: submit@bugs.x2go.org Subject: Body: Package: nxagent Version: 3.5.0.27 Severity: minor The problem is very probably burried in NX code somewhere. > Then on Mac there are further problems. On MacOS 10.7.5,=20=20 >=20without XQuarts, > X2Go Client is completely unusable. Keyboard translations are=20=20 >=20severely messed > up and it is unstable and usually dies or locks up within fifteen seconds= . There are several bugs tackling this... http://bugs.x2go.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D487 http://bugs.x2go.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D481 http://bugs.x2go.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D112 http://bugs.x2go.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D252 > With XQuartz installed, behavior is much better, keyboard translatio= n is Actually, X2Go Client is not intended to be used without XQuartz=20=20 installed.=20We don't bundle it, because the release cycle of XQuartz is=20= =20 very=20short and we recommend having it updated as a separated=20=20 application=20(rather then us having to rebuild/rebundle X2Go Client=20=20 whenever=20XQuartz comes up with a new release). http://bugs.x2go.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D378 > correct with one exception, the state of CAPS LOCK is inverted, that is, = when > CAPS LOCK is on, I get upper and lower case characters, when it is off, I= get > UPPER CASE only. It's a minor nusiance and most notable when=20=20 >=20switching between X2Go client and other windows where I have to keep=20= =20 >=20toggling the CAPS LOCK. Please check the above bugs if this actually has already been reported. > Another behaviorial issue with MacOS is that it will only do=20=20 >=20full screen if I enable the X-server root window, however this=20=20 >=20breaks many things MacOS, This is a new issue, I guess. Submit it as a new bug, please. > and so it is essentially not usable in full screen. I do not have to do = this > with other NX clients, they all go full screen without using the root win= dow > and would very much desire this behavior also with X2Go client. Can you let us know what nxproxy version these other NX clients ship?=20=20 Can=20you also launch such a session and check the NX options set for=20=20 such=20a session? That would be awesome! > On MacOS, sound does not work. It works on Windows and Linux fine, = but > not MacOS 10.7.5. It doesn't produce any errors, but doesn't=20=20 >=20produce any sound > either. There are no choices for audio subsystems so nothing to=20=20 >=20attempt to tweak. AFAIK, X2Go Client for Mac OS X never had sound supported. Others may=20=20 correct=20me if I am wrong. > This isn't a bitch list, just a wish list. I really appreciate the = work > you folks have put into X2Go, aesthetically, I find it far superior to > NoMachine, it also connects far more reliably, and working sound is nice. :-) As I said above, the Mac part of the code in X2Go Client really could=20=20 need=20some love. (Or financial input, which actually is an option we=20=20 are=20working on at the moment). > I've got the server end working on Centos 6, Centos 7, Fedora=20=20 >=2020, Scientific Linux 6, Scientific Linux 7, OpenSuse, Mint, Ubuntu,=20= =20 >=20and until very recently Debian Wheezy. until very recently... means: now it is broken / or now it is finally worki= ng? > I've also got freenx-server working on all of these > except Debian. Cool. They work in parallel? On the same machines? > For those of you who have experienced problems with the newer > distributions move to compositing window managers that don't work with X2= Go, > check out mate-desktop.org. Mate is a fork of gnome2 that works=20=20 >=20perfectly with > X2Go and all of the above mentioned Linux distros. Actually, I am the maintainer of MATE in Debian (/me is a Debian=20=20 Developer=20and also X2Go upstream). And I have arranged that the=20=20 developer=20pushing MATE into Ubuntu will meet up with us at the X2Go=20=20 Gathering=20(first weekened of November in Linux Hotel, Essen, Germany). Hope to gain more input from you!!! 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