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[X2Go-Dev] Bug#1439: latest release of x2goclient for Ubuntu has dependency on hello Message-ID: <682cd690-ce70-9ff0-8e31-e5f25ae0d8b6@ionic.de> Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2020 17:00:27 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.3.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="gvXHh8JF31VzVyYu7UPLAhAWXPA08844U" This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --gvXHh8JF31VzVyYu7UPLAhAWXPA08844U Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="W0R7y9TYmWNlTztrbXwGpc6MNmO0iA87n"; protected-headers="v1" From: Mihai Moldovan To: uli42@gmx.de, 1439@bugs.x2go.org Cc: Seth Galitzer , Mike Gabriel Message-ID: <682cd690-ce70-9ff0-8e31-e5f25ae0d8b6@ionic.de> Subject: Re: [X2Go-Dev] Bug#1439: latest release of x2goclient for Ubuntu has dependency on hello References: <74fab147-6aa0-5eb2-d490-c5384b3bedd2@ksu.edu> <0c721641-0bc6-a233-3c2e-a3c5ecf27076@ionic.de> In-Reply-To: --W0R7y9TYmWNlTztrbXwGpc6MNmO0iA87n Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable * On 2/15/20 4:23 PM, Ulrich Sibiller wrote: > 1. why choose hello and not something that's on the system anyway, > like the kernel or bin-utils or some X package? I'm not a DD, so my answer isn't authoritative and Mike#1 can probably ex= plain this better, but optionaldep | hello seems to be a very common pattern in= Debian packaging. If a DD sees such a dependency, he'll recognize it and its mea= ning immediately. Depending on a package in the base system set (i.e., those marked "essent= ial") MIGHT be easier, but this is seems to be generally frowned upon because i= t makes degrading essential-set packages to optional ones more difficult, if I re= call correctly. I've also read that normal (i.e., optional, non-core/essential= ) packages should generally NOT depend upon packages in the essential-set b= ut just assume them to available unconditionally. > 2. why do you want to mak x2gokdriveclient (or is it x2gokdrive?) a > hard dependency? Nobody needs it unless he's wants to use it. People > can use x2go without it. So I see it as optional either way... Hm, Mike#1 wanted it to be a hard dependency, but moving it to Recommends= might make sense after all, since other software that X2Go Client *can* make us= e of, like FreeRDP2, is also not strictly necessary and merely a recommended pa= ckage. Note that Debian installs recommended packages by default (unless users explicitly configure or tell the package manager not to do this), so user= experience wouldn't be affected by that change anyway. 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