From jens.reyer@leberrohstoffe.com Mon Nov 19 14:27:02 2018 Received: (at submit) by bugs.x2go.org; 19 Nov 2018 13:27:04 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on ymir.das-netzwerkteam.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_40,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ymir.das-netzwerkteam.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90ED45DAED for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2018 14:27:02 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at ymir.das-netzwerkteam.de Received: from ymir.das-netzwerkteam.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ymir.das-netzwerkteam.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wfe9T_B39Ev2 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2018 14:26:54 +0100 (CET) Received: from ares-mta1.core1.p4.net (ares-mta1.core1.p4.net [195.98.222.228]) by ymir.das-netzwerkteam.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AC9385DA96 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2018 14:26:54 +0100 (CET) Received: from ares-mda1.core1.p4.net ([195.98.222.164]) by ares-mta1.core1.p4.net with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) id 1gOjZm-000aSY-7J for submit@bugs.x2go.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2018 14:26:54 +0100 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (helo=localhost.localdomain) by ares-mda1.core1.p4.net with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) id 1gOjZl-0001QL-MA for submit@bugs.x2go.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2018 14:26:54 +0100 Received: by mail-qk1-f179.google.com with SMTP id 131so48437567qkd.4 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2018 05:26:53 -0800 (PST) X-Gm-Message-State: AGRZ1gIexCtp2T73TldKZRVHAmpcPtBHZdvlgoeAUVBsxGwsX8ld7txO mr9nyL4di99QLsGtK2bFPQ1XH19SgW/6Sp6hng== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AJdET5cVMrb/IUJQfhVd3CXI+EcIY8ePiPurEU67YJDfeJrkli+vQ2LJxklyiHGCqr4QLlWYUXIR92Ve5n8tY0OGkwg= X-Received: by 2002:a37:4cd7:: with SMTP id z206mr21090344qka.233.1542634012590; Mon, 19 Nov 2018 05:26:52 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Jens Reyer Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2018 14:26:41 +0100 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Versioning in the launchpad ppa To: submit@bugs.x2go.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Package: launchpad.net Hi, the version of e.g. nx-libs in the X2Go nightly PPA at https://launchpad.net/~x2go is technically lower than the one in the official Ubuntu Bionic (18.04) archive: $ dpkg --compare-versions 2:3.5.99.16-0~201811100633~ubuntu18.04.1 gt 2:3.5.99.16-1 && echo "ppa version is bigger" || echo "ppa version is smaller" ppa version is smaller This would be correct if they had the same "upstream" content, so that the official package has precedence over the PPA one. However I assume that the nightly PPA ships newer "upstream" functionality. You may reflect this by changing the versioning to something like this (increase the upstream versioning part before the Debian revision -0): 2:3.5.99.16+201811100633-0~ubuntu18.04.1 $ dpkg --compare-versions 2:3.5.99.16+201811100633-0~ubuntu18.04.1 gt 2:3.5.99.16-1 && echo "ppa version is bigger" || echo "ppa version is smaller" ppa version is bigger Otherwise I have to "downgrade" the packages, in order to use the nightly builds instead of the older official Ubuntu bionic ones. For this to work I currently use apt pinning: $ cat /etc/apt/preferences.d/x2go-ppa Package: * Pin: release o=LP-PPA-x2go Pin-Priority: 1010 Thanks jre From mike.gabriel@das-netzwerkteam.de Mon Nov 19 15:59:52 2018 Received: (at 1344) by bugs.x2go.org; 19 Nov 2018 14:59:54 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on ymir.das-netzwerkteam.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ymir.das-netzwerkteam.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id E890F5DA96 for <1344@bugs.x2go.org>; Mon, 19 Nov 2018 15:59:51 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at ymir.das-netzwerkteam.de Received: from ymir.das-netzwerkteam.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ymir.das-netzwerkteam.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nczt5ibr5vIG for <1344@bugs.x2go.org>; Mon, 19 Nov 2018 15:59:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from fregna.das-netzwerkteam.de (fregna.das-netzwerkteam.de [148.251.53.130]) by ymir.das-netzwerkteam.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BF3265DAED for <1344@bugs.x2go.org>; Mon, 19 Nov 2018 15:59:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from grimnir.das-netzwerkteam.de (grimnir.das-netzwerkteam.de [IPv6:2a01:4f8:202:1381::105]) by fregna.das-netzwerkteam.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9A62E60141; Mon, 19 Nov 2018 14:59:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grimnir.das-netzwerkteam.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 951AEC25D2; Mon, 19 Nov 2018 15:59:40 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at grimnir.das-netzwerkteam.de Received: from grimnir.das-netzwerkteam.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (grimnir.das-netzwerkteam.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CoBVw_jUeGh5; Mon, 19 Nov 2018 15:59:35 +0100 (CET) Received: from das-netzwerkteam.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grimnir.das-netzwerkteam.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F1164C25AB; Mon, 19 Nov 2018 15:59:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from [2001:470:6aa7:1f::b] ([2001:470:6aa7:1f::b]) by mail.das-netzwerkteam.de (Horde Framework) with HTTPS; Mon, 19 Nov 2018 14:59:34 +0000 Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2018 14:59:34 +0000 Message-ID: <20181119145934.Horde.OqfDBu8R8_8DWMHAqHSp8ur@mail.das-netzwerkteam.de> From: Mike Gabriel To: Jens Reyer , 1344@bugs.x2go.org Subject: Re: [X2Go-Dev] Bug#1344: Versioning in the launchpad ppa In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Horde Application Framework 5 Accept-Language: de,en Organization: DAS-NETZWERKTEAM X-Originating-IP: 2001:470:6aa7:1f::b X-Remote-Browser: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=_dX-8IQRLtz9YQ08b8FTb4fw"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256 MIME-Version: 1.0 This message is in MIME format and has been PGP signed. --=_dX-8IQRLtz9YQ08b8FTb4fw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; DelSp=Yes Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Control: close -1 Control: tags -1 not-a-bug Hi Jens, On Mo 19 Nov 2018 14:26:41 CET, Jens Reyer wrote: > $ cat /etc/apt/preferences.d/x2go-ppa > Package: * > Pin: release o=3DLP-PPA-x2go > Pin-Priority: 1010 This is exactly the way to do it. Closing this bug as a not-a-bug report. Thanks+Greets! 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I don't really get it. What is the sense in adding a ppa to your system when you need additional steps to get the packages from there!? This is counter-intuitive! If a user adds the ppa he/she/it states his/her/its will to use packages from there, so why ignoring that user wish? Uli From jens.reyer@leberrohstoffe.com Mon Nov 19 17:04:26 2018 Received: (at 1344) by bugs.x2go.org; 19 Nov 2018 16:04:29 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on ymir.das-netzwerkteam.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_50,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ymir.das-netzwerkteam.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EE765DAED for <1344@bugs.x2go.org>; Mon, 19 Nov 2018 17:04:26 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at ymir.das-netzwerkteam.de Received: from ymir.das-netzwerkteam.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ymir.das-netzwerkteam.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id v7DNfYnrVfmH for <1344@bugs.x2go.org>; Mon, 19 Nov 2018 17:04:16 +0100 (CET) X-Greylist: delayed 925 seconds by postgrey-1.35 at ymir.das-netzwerkteam.de; Mon, 19 Nov 2018 17:04:15 CET Received: from ares-mta1.core1.p4.net (ares-mta1.core1.p4.net [195.98.222.228]) by ymir.das-netzwerkteam.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E77825DA96 for <1344@bugs.x2go.org>; Mon, 19 Nov 2018 17:04:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from ares-mda1.core1.p4.net ([195.98.222.164]) by ares-mta1.core1.p4.net with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) id 1gOln8-000cis-KX for 1344@bugs.x2go.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2018 16:48:50 +0100 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (helo=localhost.localdomain) by ares-mda1.core1.p4.net with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) id 1gOln7-0009W0-Tl for 1344@bugs.x2go.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2018 16:48:50 +0100 Received: by mail-qk1-f178.google.com with SMTP id o125so49283096qkf.3 for <1344@bugs.x2go.org>; Mon, 19 Nov 2018 07:48:49 -0800 (PST) X-Gm-Message-State: AGRZ1gLgimeYO7dgb1RkiYvV2xr8nZPY2YCCbGnGSS2IlZmsdLDWG+ey P+Ohk7K35yCgyo+uX1cgkde+QGOaq7lgSm8SuQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AJdET5e3gpTdlhNk3xOt5hNHEwt9rQTxd7914mUYYGb09+HoRly0BGm0NvhVdjECaacurLWjlsteGG2be8a2SK4TS7E= X-Received: by 2002:a37:4cd7:: with SMTP id z206mr21644588qka.233.1542642528762; Mon, 19 Nov 2018 07:48:48 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20181119145934.Horde.OqfDBu8R8_8DWMHAqHSp8ur@mail.das-netzwerkteam.de> In-Reply-To: From: Jens Reyer Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2018 16:48:37 +0100 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: [X2Go-Dev] Bug#1344: Bug#1344: Versioning in the launchpad ppa To: 1344@bugs.x2go.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Am Mo., 19. Nov. 2018 um 16:20 Uhr schrieb Ulrich Sibiller : > On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 4:05 PM Mike Gabriel > wrote: > > > > Control: close -1 > > Control: tags -1 not-a-bug > > > $ cat /etc/apt/preferences.d/x2go-ppa > > > Package: * > > > Pin: release o=LP-PPA-x2go > > > Pin-Priority: 1010 > > > > This is exactly the way to do it. > > > > Closing this bug as a not-a-bug report. > > I don't really get it. What is the sense in adding a ppa to your > system when you need additional steps to get the packages from there!? > This is counter-intuitive! If a user adds the ppa he/she/it states > his/her/its will to use packages from there, so why ignoring that user > wish? I basically agree with Uli, except that I'd only prefer newer versions from the PPA over those from the Ubuntu archive (which should be the case for nightly). Or with other words: I assume you update the upstream source in the orig.tar for the nightlies, then you should also change the upstream version. From mike.gabriel@das-netzwerkteam.de Tue Nov 20 10:01:44 2018 Received: (at 1344) by bugs.x2go.org; 20 Nov 2018 09:01:49 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on ymir.das-netzwerkteam.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,RDNS_NONE, URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ymir.das-netzwerkteam.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id E826A5DAED for <1344@bugs.x2go.org>; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 10:01:43 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at ymir.das-netzwerkteam.de Received: from ymir.das-netzwerkteam.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ymir.das-netzwerkteam.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 05ahl5jrRjIm for <1344@bugs.x2go.org>; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 10:01:29 +0100 (CET) Received: from fregna.das-netzwerkteam.de (unknown [IPv6:2a01:4f8:202:1381::1]) by ymir.das-netzwerkteam.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4A82B5DA96 for <1344@bugs.x2go.org>; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 10:01:29 +0100 (CET) Received: from grimnir.das-netzwerkteam.de (grimnir.das-netzwerkteam.de [148.251.201.105]) by fregna.das-netzwerkteam.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2D7E660544; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 09:01:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grimnir.das-netzwerkteam.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 285BEC25ED; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 10:01:29 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at grimnir.das-netzwerkteam.de Received: from grimnir.das-netzwerkteam.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (grimnir.das-netzwerkteam.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GvP8qpD789KL; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 10:01:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from das-netzwerkteam.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grimnir.das-netzwerkteam.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BBBA8C268C; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 10:01:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from [37.123.126.38] ([37.123.126.38]) by mail.das-netzwerkteam.de (Horde Framework) with HTTPS; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 09:01:22 +0000 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2018 09:01:22 +0000 Message-ID: <20181120090122.Horde.C_XtI9Li0uhLg22GL-mhBaU@mail.das-netzwerkteam.de> From: Mike Gabriel To: uli42@gmx.de, 1344@bugs.x2go.org Subject: Re: [X2Go-Dev] Bug#1344: Bug#1344: Bug#1344: Versioning in the launchpad ppa References: <20181119145934.Horde.OqfDBu8R8_8DWMHAqHSp8ur@mail.das-netzwerkteam.de> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Horde Application Framework 5 Accept-Language: de,en Organization: DAS-NETZWERKTEAM X-Originating-IP: 37.123.126.38 X-Remote-Browser: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=_n9Gu-z4P1R-Xm97wsfvLmjT"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256 MIME-Version: 1.0 This message is in MIME format and has been PGP signed. --=_n9Gu-z4P1R-Xm97wsfvLmjT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; DelSp=Yes Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Uli, On Mo 19 Nov 2018 16:19:47 CET, Ulrich Sibiller wrote: > On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 4:05 PM Mike Gabriel > wrote: >> >> Control: close -1 >> Control: tags -1 not-a-bug >> >> Hi Jens, >> >> On Mo 19 Nov 2018 14:26:41 CET, Jens Reyer wrote: >> >> > $ cat /etc/apt/preferences.d/x2go-ppa >> > Package: * >> > Pin: release o=3DLP-PPA-x2go >> > Pin-Priority: 1010 >> >> This is exactly the way to do it. >> >> Closing this bug as a not-a-bug report. > > I don't really get it. What is the sense in adding a ppa to your > system when you need additional steps to get the packages from there!? > This is counter-intuitive! If a user adds the ppa he/she/it states > his/her/its will to use packages from there, so why ignoring that user > wish? > > Uli It is a versioning topic. As long as we have not released a new=20=20 upstream=20version, the nx-libs nightly packages we built for Arctica /=20= =20 X2Go=20are always strictly below the released package versions=20=20 officially=20shipped in the distro. So, you need to enforce that the nightly builds are preferred over the=20= =20 distro's=20nx-libs. This is wanted (by me). And yes, it is counter intuitive for PPAs. This results from X2Go's=20=20 nx-libs=203.6.x branch simply being synced over from Github. Mike --=20 DAS-NETZWERKTEAM mike=20gabriel, herweg 7, 24357 fleckeby mobile: +49 (1520) 1976 148 landline: +49 (4354) 8390 139 GnuPG Fingerprint: 9BFB AEE8 6C0A A5FF BF22 0782 9AF4 6B30 2577 1B31 mail: mike.gabriel@das-netzwerkteam.de, http://das-netzwerkteam.de --=_n9Gu-z4P1R-Xm97wsfvLmjT Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: Digitale PGP-Signatur Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIzBAABCAAdFiEEm/uu6GwKpf+/IgeCmvRrMCV3GzEFAlvzzWIACgkQmvRrMCV3 GzE55g//Y0nNigvDk8X+UqqtMRNTih91z4emvPUMzFGBzpRWn6AYTehkDkPxqY6n FzAKvMrx4tOsplyLSE2mZfb0G1/71b1MTYr9ooOXpXRuFgbstcnb09Rldu77lTHY 8BydNK+adAoT01pncxbI5vG1WGkKxL9IXpSjFWqPHivg27XajENImTF2DmuWtsxk Kthsyvzs8cc/zLBT9mmdk+eapQeTkwlPgsXEbk6T2Mc285IyldybF2sVGVrzgxLI sC90vXiQqV7kVjHA+amel8MZspDWNlacSY6/p/BwIFihHloNIXPQ/sSjHe6nREZ3 +QB6xUj0/w70RYST/1uC4jkqPkeBINXtCFL8v1bP6lOF7OWws84yNXIoPjIBWKwK olFg6PmdFgAynjOfFwNkHslle6taur4JG5EmAQXvMqtnMpC1pW4yIrlFeHgvvBod 5wRCzwHoGli4BHQI87O64BdaWJZYO0vXTBKZqzDMsbojeTP2YiRQumR9+2+Kqey/ Fr1t9bV5TleeIKKibcbeOUPUQEnQ+PrpvrF/6ceIai/o1NKfJTn2Oaquwwp65N8E 6USiPxKyCRBSNBFQ6d5ANTgKbZV+uLyIAsQHCY+7g5N1wr10DSq26x3JhCrsdWlq moqJcz6nkv/Q9GYavSB6CCQ9Acng4kTSFmZYy/nIcX2hXC9MQMM= =NfCV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=_n9Gu-z4P1R-Xm97wsfvLmjT-- From mike.gabriel@das-netzwerkteam.de Tue Nov 20 10:03:46 2018 Received: (at 1344) by bugs.x2go.org; 20 Nov 2018 09:03:50 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on ymir.das-netzwerkteam.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ymir.das-netzwerkteam.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB3F15DAF0 for <1344@bugs.x2go.org>; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 10:03:46 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at ymir.das-netzwerkteam.de Received: from ymir.das-netzwerkteam.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ymir.das-netzwerkteam.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zhLZRp4vYjOx for <1344@bugs.x2go.org>; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 10:03:36 +0100 (CET) Received: from fregna.das-netzwerkteam.de (fregna.das-netzwerkteam.de [148.251.53.130]) by ymir.das-netzwerkteam.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 355735DA96 for <1344@bugs.x2go.org>; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 10:03:36 +0100 (CET) Received: from grimnir.das-netzwerkteam.de (grimnir.das-netzwerkteam.de [148.251.201.105]) by fregna.das-netzwerkteam.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0A2546046C; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 09:03:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grimnir.das-netzwerkteam.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00D51C268F; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 10:03:36 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at grimnir.das-netzwerkteam.de Received: from grimnir.das-netzwerkteam.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (grimnir.das-netzwerkteam.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mDYxiYAzGAyX; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 10:03:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from das-netzwerkteam.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grimnir.das-netzwerkteam.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 29337C268C; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 10:03:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from [37.123.126.38] ([37.123.126.38]) by mail.das-netzwerkteam.de (Horde Framework) with HTTPS; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 09:03:30 +0000 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2018 09:03:30 +0000 Message-ID: <20181120090330.Horde.RzkfXABkLlYsKVEj9e57mWo@mail.das-netzwerkteam.de> From: Mike Gabriel To: Jens Reyer , 1344@bugs.x2go.org Subject: Re: [X2Go-Dev] Bug#1344: Bug#1344: Bug#1344: Versioning in the launchpad ppa References: <20181119145934.Horde.OqfDBu8R8_8DWMHAqHSp8ur@mail.das-netzwerkteam.de> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Horde Application Framework 5 Accept-Language: de,en Organization: DAS-NETZWERKTEAM X-Originating-IP: 37.123.126.38 X-Remote-Browser: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=_1AsIZzKcULutBgKq-bmEw0B"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256 MIME-Version: 1.0 This message is in MIME format and has been PGP signed. --=_1AsIZzKcULutBgKq-bmEw0B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; DelSp=Yes Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Mo 19 Nov 2018 16:48:37 CET, Jens Reyer wrote: > Am Mo., 19. Nov. 2018 um 16:20 Uhr schrieb Ulrich Sibiller > : > >> On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 4:05 PM Mike Gabriel >> wrote: >> > >> > Control: close -1 >> > Control: tags -1 not-a-bug >> > > $ cat /etc/apt/preferences.d/x2go-ppa >> > > Package: * >> > > Pin: release o=3DLP-PPA-x2go >> > > Pin-Priority: 1010 >> > >> > This is exactly the way to do it. >> > >> > Closing this bug as a not-a-bug report. >> >> I don't really get it. What is the sense in adding a ppa to your >> system when you need additional steps to get the packages from there!? >> This is counter-intuitive! If a user adds the ppa he/she/it states >> his/her/its will to use packages from there, so why ignoring that user >> wish? > > I basically agree with Uli, except that I'd only prefer newer versions > from the PPA over those from the Ubuntu archive (which should be the > case for nightly). > Or with other words: I assume you update the upstream source in the > orig.tar for the nightlies, then you should also change the upstream > version. The orig tarballs are indeed Git snapshots and the code base is newer=20=20 than=20the upstream release number given. In fact, the package version=20= =20 contains=20the Git revision hash (shortened) and from that you can=20=20 derive=20what code is actually shipped in the package. The overall idea is to have an easy upgrade path when you want to=20=20 return=20from nightly builds (test test test) back to a stable release=20= =20 build. Mike --=20 DAS-NETZWERKTEAM mike gabriel, herweg 7, 24357 fleckeby mobile: +49 (1520) 1976 148 landline: +49 (4354) 8390 139 GnuPG Fingerprint: 9BFB AEE8 6C0A A5FF BF22 0782 9AF4 6B30 2577 1B31 mail: mike.gabriel@das-netzwerkteam.de, http://das-netzwerkteam.de --=_1AsIZzKcULutBgKq-bmEw0B Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: Digitale PGP-Signatur Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIzBAABCAAdFiEEm/uu6GwKpf+/IgeCmvRrMCV3GzEFAlvzzeEACgkQmvRrMCV3 GzHMPA/+KqpTe3c4etM16X1m1tV72jsFl5zwtCt0KaCMktqsc+6aXTeEE3+X0PZe LcjjBBPbTFkrG8zMkepPB1xmvoPEJg6gCdP3SSNgHNv8BowNI6dShA4JWDPYtPVF M3WUBFOsH70r+4lH6c0PODIWY3rLjR04SoPRznchdiwB8JqXNoIzZCH52X/HdGUF Up5G1rslaQL+3NiJGVwLMa37xq3IU3ge9auUVf7NK/rqLSYJKMgs0gg8x5O4nmf0 kaR3hKWUPt58COS999MsGVTphnk3YNmSEeY74QmKR88NpbXEIXl3vzq3lPc8tOUV 2ojNud+XobIbeKPg9zTiiHK1g+859GVj7XXgYrtw3atQ4cVtdFgkOuHWHX4Eb/mQ OQQQrXPsv5DPAmn1pHL51b+KdZAEA8gT9Nc4/sS9EnG5gk2K5DramTz1r93HMqAS wZb3Y1ccBGOsPgWPYo+HwU/urpfRPn/n1a56syBokQmd2LcQhnpSU0Wf/qSRPtlU vlXtMcRsxxPZEpCoPyRD1Yqkg1JV6hw3jkc0a+XmGejOcH4bAAT5iSZYwGIFA1CM sqMB4WhYhhDGVkW79jIsXVhPct9H+6wJ0ttVlgg4nyFZdvhJH8of7ApaRBLJu68J +UYvaGVVFJ1T4ET/A8uncu533Mboqd2vxmU7hqzUvCtSbhfc3Eg= =rS0O -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=_1AsIZzKcULutBgKq-bmEw0B-- From jens.reyer@leberrohstoffe.com Tue Nov 20 11:00:42 2018 Received: (at 1344) by bugs.x2go.org; 20 Nov 2018 10:00:47 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on ymir.das-netzwerkteam.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ymir.das-netzwerkteam.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD6B05DAED for <1344@bugs.x2go.org>; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 11:00:42 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at ymir.das-netzwerkteam.de Received: from ymir.das-netzwerkteam.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ymir.das-netzwerkteam.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rJe53ZeCi5QT for <1344@bugs.x2go.org>; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 11:00:31 +0100 (CET) Received: from ares-mta1.core1.p4.net (ares-mta1.core1.p4.net [195.98.222.228]) by ymir.das-netzwerkteam.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 40AC25DA96 for <1344@bugs.x2go.org>; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 11:00:31 +0100 (CET) Received: from ares-mda1.core1.p4.net ([195.98.222.164]) by ares-mta1.core1.p4.net with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) id 1gP2pa-0001ZF-OU for 1344@bugs.x2go.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 11:00:30 +0100 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (helo=localhost.localdomain) by ares-mda1.core1.p4.net with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) id 1gP2pZ-000FPb-GF for 1344@bugs.x2go.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 11:00:30 +0100 Received: by mail-qk1-f177.google.com with SMTP id o89so1925735qko.0 for <1344@bugs.x2go.org>; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 02:00:29 -0800 (PST) X-Gm-Message-State: AGRZ1gL0UPmg/q5Q49Cb1kq6WhMLDPchovl2eQXWKUceYLdFLG4l8NTa zSV9Eui2ODvq9XelfkwCNqgdby/eJyWflnav5g== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AFSGD/U2XYL/+dDGkYyQPP6JSJu4PmeY3gofh/2/jv35gkWMnUOHZsQJTnUyGPMl+++rvAqXSeXhQ+WLDey8Jagpntc= X-Received: by 2002:aed:2c87:: with SMTP id g7mr1215363qtd.52.1542708028397; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 02:00:28 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20181119145934.Horde.OqfDBu8R8_8DWMHAqHSp8ur@mail.das-netzwerkteam.de> <20181120090122.Horde.C_XtI9Li0uhLg22GL-mhBaU@mail.das-netzwerkteam.de> In-Reply-To: <20181120090122.Horde.C_XtI9Li0uhLg22GL-mhBaU@mail.das-netzwerkteam.de> From: Jens Reyer Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2018 11:00:16 +0100 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: [X2Go-Dev] Bug#1344: Bug#1344: Bug#1344: Bug#1344: Versioning in the launchpad ppa To: Mike Gabriel , 1344@bugs.x2go.org Cc: uli42@gmx.de Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi Mike, Am Di., 20. Nov. 2018 um 10:07 Uhr schrieb Mike Gabriel : > > Hi Uli, > > On Mo 19 Nov 2018 16:19:47 CET, Ulrich Sibiller wrote: > > > On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 4:05 PM Mike Gabriel > > wrote: > >> > >> Control: close -1 > >> Control: tags -1 not-a-bug > >> > >> Hi Jens, > >> > >> On Mo 19 Nov 2018 14:26:41 CET, Jens Reyer wrote: > >> > >> > $ cat /etc/apt/preferences.d/x2go-ppa > >> > Package: * > >> > Pin: release o=LP-PPA-x2go > >> > Pin-Priority: 1010 > >> > >> This is exactly the way to do it. > >> > >> Closing this bug as a not-a-bug report. > > > > I don't really get it. What is the sense in adding a ppa to your > > system when you need additional steps to get the packages from there!? > > This is counter-intuitive! If a user adds the ppa he/she/it states > > his/her/its will to use packages from there, so why ignoring that user > > wish? > > > > Uli > > It is a versioning topic. As long as we have not released a new > upstream version, the nx-libs nightly packages we built for Arctica / > X2Go are always strictly below the released package versions > officially shipped in the distro. > > So, you need to enforce that the nightly builds are preferred over the > distro's nx-libs. This is wanted (by me). > > And yes, it is counter intuitive for PPAs. This results from X2Go's > nx-libs 3.6.x branch simply being synced over from Github. Then maybe this can be documented on (at least) this page (including the apt preferences snippet): https://launchpad.net/~x2go/+archive/ubuntu/ppa Greets and thanks again jre From unknown Fri Mar 29 15:47:46 2024 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@bugs.x2go.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: Bug archived. 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